Discussion:
Hair Length for Mormon Women
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Jason King
20 years ago
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Looking over the pictures of general authorities and their wives in the
church magazines, I have noticed that it seems the wives (and Officers
who are women) all have their hair cut short. I don't remember seeing
one that doesn't.
I know for GA men, there probably are specific instructions to keep
that hair short.
Are there similar instructions for high-placed mormon women for their
hair length when they become a General Officer or wife of a GA? I
noticed in Latin America most women wear their hair long, even the
older ones, and it looks beautiful.

So I am trying to figure out is this a North American thing or does the
church have something to do with the hair length on high-placed Mormon
women.
Rob Perkins
20 years ago
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Post by Jason King
Looking over the pictures of general authorities and their wives in the
church magazines, I have noticed that it seems the wives (and Officers
who are women) all have their hair cut short. I don't remember seeing
one that doesn't.
I don't remember paying any attention to hair length. As far as I know
no Church leader has ever offered any guidance about hair length for
women, which was ever any different from the defining social norms for
"good taste" and/or "well-groomed" around them.

Rob
father of peace
20 years ago
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Post by Jason King
So I am trying to figure out is this a North American thing or does the
church have something to do with the hair length on high-placed Mormon
women.
I think there may be a biological compenent to it.
There is a huge scandanavian heritage among
the LdS people, and one of the defining
characterstics of viking hair is it's curliness.
Viking hair tends to also be narrower, so it
breaks easier and when combined with tangles
caused by the curls it's hard to grow
scandanavian hair much below the shoulders,
and so it ends up being easier just to cut it off.

Next time I am conducting my beard study I'll
do a women's hair length study as well.

Love,
Absalom

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Official web site of The Mormon Church
http://absalom.com/mormon-church
James W Anderson
20 years ago
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Post by Jason King
Looking over the pictures of general authorities and their wives in the
church magazines, I have noticed that it seems the wives (and
Officers
...
I've never seen anything on that. It's probably the preference of the
women themselves, and a reflection of the time periods they lived in.

At BYU, they have pictures of all the homecoming queens for quite a few
years back. There was a day when short hair was really the big thing.
And some of the women who are married to general or other major
authorities are from those time periods when shorter hair was popular.

Another possibility has to do with aging, and that is some may find it
simpler to fix shorter hair than long hair, and that may have alot to
do with it also.

And just go into any ward, you will usually find at least one woman
with waist-length or sometimes even longer hair in most wards. Again,
it appears to be always the choice of the woman as to how long or short
to wear their hair.
Gene Fuller
20 years ago
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Post by Jason King
Post by Jason King
Looking over the pictures of general authorities and their wives in
the
Post by Jason King
church magazines, I have noticed that it seems the wives (and
Officers
Post by Jason King
who are women) all have their hair cut short. I don't remember seeing
one that doesn't.
Wow! The women that I see every now and then seem to have long hair while
they are growing up until maybe 25 or 30 years of age, then most seem to
have it cut for whatever reasons. My own conjectures are that caring for
long hair is too time consuming once there are f few children to care for, a
household to run, and possibly a full time career to see to. I hapopen to
live in the central part of Illinois, which is hardly a bastion of
"Mormonism" so more of the women I see from time to time are not "Mormon"
than there are of those who are Latter-day Saints.

I happen to have been a member of a bishopric a few years ago, and when I
was called, my Stake President only said "I would like for you to get a dark
suit, if you can." Nothing was said about hair length by few serious
Latter-day Saints of my persoal acquaintance wear their hair in any fashion
that can be called "long". I am currently a Temple Ordinance worker, and the
written instructions in the St. Louis Temple, which may or may not be widely
distributed among the Ordinance workers, simply say that it is requested
that the workers adhere to missionary dress and grooming standards while
travelling to and from the temple. Missionary standards generally do not
include long sideburns and other facial hair on men. Nothing is said about
the length of hair on women. If I have a point, it is that in my own
opinion, based on my own observations, the length of a woman's hair depends
more on the fashion and the age of the woman than on anything the Church may
teach.
Post by Jason King
Post by Jason King
I know for GA men, there probably are specific instructions to keep
that hair short.
I love that asserion, "I know ... probably..." <G>
Post by Jason King
Post by Jason King
Are there similar instructions for high-placed mormon women for their
hair length when they become a General Officer or wife of a GA? I
noticed in Latin America most women wear their hair long, even the
older ones, and it looks beautiful.
You "know ... probably" if something is true for men, and then weave from
that a question whether probably somehing similar is true for women? Well, I
know ... probably that you are not going to get an authoritative answer to
that question.

Comparing US fashions to Latin Amefican fashions is rather fruitless.

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Post by Jason King
Another possibility has to do with aging, and that is some may find it
simpler to fix shorter hair than long hair, and that may have alot to
do with it also.
Yep!

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DianaC
20 years ago
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Post by Jason King
Looking over the pictures of general authorities and their wives in the
church magazines, I have noticed that it seems the wives (and Officers
who are women) all have their hair cut short. I don't remember seeing
one that doesn't.
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Post by Jason King
So I am trying to figure out is this a North American thing or does the
church have something to do with the hair length on high-placed Mormon
women.
It is neither a North American thing or a Mormon thing. It's a woman thing.
For a very long time now, women over a 'certain age' have been counseled to
keep their hair short; not for any religious reason, but because long hair
worn down drags down the face and makes you look older/hard, and if you put
it UP, it tends to be too severe, doing the same thing; short hair softens
the features and is far more flattering to women over forty or so.

And the wives of general authorities are generally over forty. ;-)

Mormonism does not dictate the length of hair on a woman, or the style of
skirt or jacket or dress. Nor does it dictate how we decorate our homes,
(OK, hide the butterflies on the front doors and the resin grapes on the
coffeetable, Martha!) or how we provide entertainment for the kids (can we
pretend the trampoline in the back yard is a flexible picnic table?) or....

never mind.
father of peace
20 years ago
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Post by DianaC
Mormonism does not dictate the length of hair on a woman, or the style of
skirt or jacket or dress.
LdSism does dictate clothing styles for women: No bare
stomachs or shoulders. No visable cleavage. Don't
expose the thighs. etc...

I had origially though Lucky to be a mormon
woman rather than a man. But ladies dress in
the church is nearly as constrained as male
dress.


Love,
Absalom

---
Official web site of The Mormon Church
http://absalom.com/mormon-church
Jason King
20 years ago
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Post by DianaC
Mormonism does not dictate the length of hair on a woman, or the style of
skirt or jacket or dress.
If we follow the Bible, it does dictate about woman's hair.
I was recently was reading in 1 Corinthians 11:13-16 that Paul the
Apostle makes it clear women should not cut their hair short and their
hair is like a natural veil.

If my intrepretation is correct, I believe the high-placed Mormon women
in the magazines I refered to earlier should set the example and have
long hair to comply with Paul.
Gene Fuller
20 years ago
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Well, if your interpretation is correct, not only should "high-placed Mormon
women" (whatever they are)should have long hair to comply with Paul, but so
should all women. However, we do not claim to be "Paulists" or "Pauline
Christians" or any such thing. We profess to be followers of Jesus Christ
who leads this Church. I am not aware of any time or place that Jesus Christ
told any woman how to wear her hair or likewise told any man how to wear his
hair. Since the Bible indicates that even His accusers and persecutors had
to have Him identified to them by Judas Iscariot to be sure they had the
right man, it seems that there was nothing distinctive about Him compared to
other men in the area at the time, so his hair and clothing must have been
typical of the time. If it was of the Roman style, which it may have been,
it would have been short, I think, and perhaps He would have been beardless.
But I am not sure if that was a common style for the Jews of the time. If it
followed ancient Hebrew/Jewish customs, then I am not sure about the hair,
but the beard would not have been shaven.

Paul may settle the matter for himself, but not necessarily for Jesus, as to
hair length for men. Here is what he said to the Saints in Corinth:

14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it
is a shame unto him?

My reply to Paul has always been, "No, nature teaches me no such thing.
Coupling this with the next verse, I think I know of no natural life in
which the male is short haired and the female has long hair on her head."

It is possible that Paul intended that the letter go to all who claim the
name of Christ in all ages, but again, maybe not.

Regarding long hair on men, long before Paul, some who made vows of extreme
degree as to how they were devoting their lives to God, vowed not to cut
their hair while the vow was in force. This was, I believe, the Nazarite
vow. Samson was one notable person who is recorded in the Bible as having
taken that vow. I am pretty sure that he did not consider it a shame, as
Paul seems to be claiming even nature teaches us. But what do we learn in
the Book of Mormon? I will answer my own question:
Mosiah 3:19
19 For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of
Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of
the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint
through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child,
submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all
things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth
submit to his father.

My final question for pondering on this topic is, "Are we to believe that
the length of the hair of a man or a woman is of importance to God? If so,
why?" Jesus had something to say against even those Jews who were scrupulous
in their application of the law of the Tithe, did He not? (Again I answer my
own question)
Matt 23:23
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of
mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the
law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to
leave the other undone.

What do I think is the point? I think it is to ponder carefully what you
spend your time on. Try to give importance to the things that God gives
importance to. Take the word of no mortal man regarding what that is for
you. (Not even my word.)
Peggy Tatyana
20 years ago
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Post by Jason King
Post by DianaC
Mormonism does not dictate the length of hair on a woman, or the
style of skirt or jacket or dress.
If we follow the Bible, it does dictate about woman's hair.
I was recently was reading in 1 Corinthians 11:13-16 that Paul the
Apostle makes it clear women should not cut their hair short and their
hair is like a natural veil.
Not only that, they should also "keep silence in the churches," and if
they have a question about anything, ask their husbands about it after
they get home. (1 Coe. 14:34-35)

Who is this "we" you are speaking of, anyway? I think it cannot
properly be said that Latter-day Saints "follow the Bible." And most
of the Biblical precepts that they do follow are those that seem to
still make sense in the 21st century. I realize, of course, that this
makes some people crazy. But the LDS attitude toward the Bible is very
different from that of strict Biblical literalists.
Post by Jason King
If my intrepretation is correct, I believe the high-placed Mormon women
in the magazines I refered to earlier should set the example and have
long hair to comply with Paul.
There you have it: "If..."

Peggy
--
The Duke showed his lower teeth. "We all have our flaws," he said,
"and mine is being wicked." --James Thurber
Paula
20 years ago
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 02:33:24 -0000, "Peggy Tatyana"
...
Then why are the High Councilmen sleeping during the meeting while
their wives pay attention? If I ever remarry, I am going to use this
scripture to insist that I get to sleep through any and all church
meetings while my husband not only has to stay awake, but must pay
enough attention to be able to explain to me anything that was
discussed in the meetings. Growing my hair out would be a fair
exchange.
--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
Gene Fuller
20 years ago
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Post by DianaC
Post by Jason King
Looking over the pictures of general authorities and their wives in the
church magazines, I have noticed that it seems the wives (and Officers
who are women) all have their hair cut short. I don't remember seeing
one that doesn't.
<snip to>
Snip
Post by DianaC
It is neither a North American thing or a Mormon thing. It's a woman thing.
For a very long time now, women over a 'certain age' have been counseled to
keep their hair short; not for any religious reason, but because long hair
worn down drags down the face and makes you look older/hard, and if you put
it UP, it tends to be too severe, doing the same thing; short hair softens
the features and is far more flattering to women over forty or so.
I was wrong. I thought thre would be no authoitative answer, but I was
thinking only of a "Church" answer, and then of course the authoirty would
be a man. I think I did not do too bad, from my own observations, but I am
sure that Dianaa is "right on". I see my fomer wife very seldom, but I
remember her almost waist length hair around 1963, with its natural wave and
it was absolutely beautiful, and for the past several years when I have seen
her (And she is far from being influenced by the Church, she is opposed to
it) it has been short. I agree with Diana that if she still had her long
hair she would look terrible. In fact, it seems to me that one of the things
they do in movies and television to make a woman look old and ill kept is to
give them long hair.

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father of peace
20 years ago
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Post by Jason King
So I am trying to figure out is this a North American thing or does the
church have something to do with the hair length on high-placed Mormon
women.
My lover tells me that short hair is practical, and that
is why mormon women tend to have shorter hair,
because they are practical.

Love,
Absalom

---
Official web site of The Mormon Church
http://absalom.com/mormon-church
Paula
20 years ago
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It seems to me that women in and out of the LDS church tend to go with
shorter hair as they get older. Long hair is seen as more of a young
woman's look. I don't see it any more often in LDS women than in
non-LDS women. My experience is in North America, so I don't know if
that holds true outside of North America or not.
--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
Colleen Kay Porter
20 years ago
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Thanks.]
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For many Caucasian women over 40, the hair tends to thin out, making a
shorter cut desireable, since a short style can make the hair seem thicker
(curls help with the body and thickness as well). If women of other
cultures continue to wear their hair longer, it may be partly because of the
biological reality that they don't experience the thinning or coarseness
that North American women do.

While hair length for women has no spiritual consequence, I am less certain
about the (also common) practice of dyeing one's hair.

I can well understand why a young woman who grays prematurely might want to
dye their hair to fit into social norms. They want to look like what they
are.

I don't understand at all why a grandmother would want to dye her hair. The
average 50-year old woman is SUPPOSED to be 50% gray. That's normal and
expected.

If someone asks me my age, and I come up short by a few years, it is a
lie--a sin by LDS standards. But if I dye my hair a younger color....well,
that also seems like a lie to me, which is why I have never felt comfortable
doing it, but that's just me.

Some people try to explan that people respond differently to folks if they
think they are that old. And all I can say is, sure, but they ARE that old.
When older folks color their hair, then it is no surprise that youngsters
don't get it that older folks can be aerobic instructors/television
anchors/whatever. Dying hair just perpetuates the myth that older people
can't be competent or interesting.

Colleen
Paula
20 years ago
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Post by Colleen Kay Porter
If someone asks me my age, and I come up short by a few years, it is a
lie--a sin by LDS standards. But if I dye my hair a younger color....well,
that also seems like a lie to me, which is why I have never felt comfortable
doing it, but that's just me.
I think some people dye their hair because they like some other color
better than their natural color, whether that natural color is gray or
something else. I don't think it is necessarily a lie to dye one's
hair or put on makeup or wear a girdle or anything else like that from
a religious point of view any more than it is a lie to tell about
one's positive experiences while sidestepping the negative when
teaching a Sunday School lesson or bearing a testimony. In any event,
I don't see more hair coloring in the LDS population than in the
general population. I do see more faith-promoting stories in the LDS
population than the general population, but I am not sure if that is
because that is the case or if it is because I don't attend many
religious meetings of other religions to see how much they do it.
--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
father of peace
20 years ago
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Post by Colleen Kay Porter
While hair length for women has no spiritual consequence,
The pentecostals would say that there is definite
spiritual consequences for women having short hair.
I wonder why/how mormon women have come to
conclude that there is no spiritual consequence?

There definitely seems to be a spiritual consequence
in the LdS church for men having long hair or beards.
Post by Colleen Kay Porter
If someone asks me my age, and I come up short by a few years, it is a
lie--a sin by LDS standards. But if I dye my hair a younger color....well,
that also seems like a lie to me, which is why I have never felt comfortable
doing it, but that's just me.
I tend to feel the same way about women that wear makeup.
That it is somehow not being honest in all one's dealings with
others. Makes me wonder how made up women can have a
clear conscience and still hold a temple recommend.
Post by Colleen Kay Porter
Some people try to explan that people respond differently to folks if they
think they are that old.
Generally imputing more respect towards their opinions.
I look forward to aging a few more decades, for that
very reason.


Love,
Absalom

---
Official web site of The Mormon Church
http://absalom.com/mormon-church
Gene Fuller
20 years ago
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Post by father of peace
Post by Colleen Kay Porter
While hair length for women has no spiritual consequence,
The pentecostals would say that there is definite
spiritual consequences for women having short hair.
I wonder why/how mormon women have come to
conclude that there is no spiritual consequence?
There definitely seems to be a spiritual consequence
in the LdS church for men having long hair or beards.
Actually, I see no evidence of such. A man with long hair, a beard, and
tattoos can receive all the ordinances of the Temple.
...
The only thing either does for me, is to cause me to wonder why some men or
women wear a wig or dye their hair in an attempt to fool others, if that is
really their intent. It is almost always very evident that they are doing
what they are doing. It is, however, not possible for us at this point in
our progression (or lack of it) to understand the thoughts and intents of
their hearts. If we are attempting to do so, perhaps we are revealing the
thoughts and intents of our won hearts.

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Peggy Tatyana
20 years ago
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Post by father of peace
Post by Colleen Kay Porter
If someone asks me my age, and I come up short by a few years, it is a
lie--a sin by LDS standards. But if I dye my hair a younger
color....well,
Post by father of peace
Post by Colleen Kay Porter
that also seems like a lie to me, which is why I have never felt comfortable
doing it, but that's just me.
My grandmother dyed her hair up until the time she died at the age of
99. I never saw any reason to fault her for it, any more than I did
when my daughter tried to dye her hair black last summer. I figure
that "man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on
the heart." I don't dye mine, and probably never will, but that's
because I'm too lazy to bother, not because I lack vanity.
Post by father of peace
I tend to feel the same way about women that wear makeup.
That it is somehow not being honest in all one's dealings with
others. Makes me wonder how made up women can have a
clear conscience and still hold a temple recommend.
Hmmm... Couldn't the same thing be said about people who let
themselves go so that they look ten years older than others the same
age? I remember being in Georgia (then in the USSR) when I was 35, and
meeting women my age who had worked all their lives picking tea in the
sun. They looked older than I do 20 years later. I'd agree that an
obsessive interest in one's outward appearance is probably deplorable,
but I don't see wearing makeup or tinting hair as being obsessive. I
don't think it at all odd the my gradmother had a temple recommend
until nearly the end of her life.

In short, I think this whole discussion is silly, and has a lot more
to do with contemporary lifestyles and cultural conditioning that with
anything that God cares about.

Peggy
--
The Duke showed his lower teeth. "We all have our flaws," he said,
"and mine is being wicked." --James Thurber
The Poster Formerly Known as Craig Olson
20 years ago
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Post by Peggy Tatyana
My grandmother dyed her hair up until the time she died at the age of
99.
One of my grandmothers never dyed her hair, but she did keep putting
some form of "blue rinse" in it that was supposed to do something
for it that totally escaped me. The result was, not too
surprisingly, a nice, elderly blue haired lady. The value of blue
hair over grey was never clear. It's tough for me to get a real
grasp on, since I started going grey on my mission. OTOH, when my
wife started going grey, I told her that it looked better with these
incredible silver streaks at the temples than her former color (which,
in case you were wondering, is the truth). There's this odd
fascination with youth that is totally lost on those who have lost
theirs.
Post by Peggy Tatyana
I never saw any reason to fault her for it, any more than I did
when my daughter tried to dye her hair black last summer.
One of my daughters changes hair color / hair length so often that I
never expect to see her twice in a row with the same look. My son
hasn't ever changed his hair color, but he was - for a while -
someone that a number of girl friends would come to to have him dye
their hair. The downstairs shower often had the residue of purple,
pink, green, blue or black hair. Black always seemed to be the
color to fix all other mistakes; if the purple polka dots didn't
work, just go with black.
Post by Peggy Tatyana
I figure
that "man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on
the heart." I don't dye mine, and probably never will, but that's
because I'm too lazy to bother, not because I lack vanity.
I suspect that many people who cut / grow / dye / don't dye their
hair do so through a sense of self image more than a sense of vanity
(to whatever extent vanity and self image do not overlap). I doubt
you're really too lazy to bother, Peggy. I think it's too
non-aligned with your self image to be worth the effort. Different
things, as I see them.
Post by Peggy Tatyana
Post by father of peace
I tend to feel the same way about women that wear makeup.
That it is somehow not being honest in all one's dealings with
others.
My blue-haired grandmother went on a mission to one of the Bible
Belt states with her husband when they were in their sixties [Oh,
the stories I could tell about that mission in another thread]. One
experience I can well remember: she had gone to talk to a local
couple. The visit seemed to be going well, conversation seems headed
in the right direction, until the wife asked about refreshments and
then invited my grandmother to help her in the kitchen. No sooner had
the swinging door flapped closed behind them than the woman turned
to by grandmother, grabbed one of my grandmother's earrings off her
earlobe [not pierced, btw] and hissed at her in a whisper, "Jezebel!
Painted face and flashing jewels! Don't think I don't know you are
going to hell!" To paraphrase the words of Joseph Smith, I don't
think any communication ever arrived with more power to the heart of
woman than this did at this time to hers.

One of the kindest things we can ever do is to hold our peace,
despite what we think.
Post by Peggy Tatyana
Post by father of peace
Makes me wonder how made up women can have a
clear conscience and still hold a temple recommend.
There are so many, many things about which I wonder how people can
hold a temple recommend with a clear conscience, that I have really
stopped wondering.
Post by Peggy Tatyana
Hmmm... Couldn't the same thing be said about people who let
themselves go so that they look ten years older than others the same
age? I remember being in Georgia (then in the USSR) when I was 35, and
meeting women my age who had worked all their lives picking tea in the
sun. They looked older than I do 20 years later.
I can go in the other direction: I know people who have (a) chosen
to run "for exercise" to the point that they appear to be mere human
skeletons and (b) chosen to use any means necessary to build muscle
mass to the point that they appear to be a 1950's superhero. I don't
think that either of these extremes is in harmony with what I see is
the gospel message about our bodies and our selves.

<snip>
Post by Peggy Tatyana
In short, I think this whole discussion is silly, and has a lot more
to do with contemporary lifestyles and cultural conditioning that with
anything that God cares about.
I am certainly not going to disagree with you.

Craig, who thinks a lot relates to our cultural conditioning
Gene Fuller
20 years ago
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I have lost track, but believe this next was from Absalom.
Post by father of peace
I tend to feel the same way about women that wear makeup.
That it is somehow not being honest in all one's dealings with
others. Makes me wonder how made up women can have a
clear conscience and still hold a temple recommend.
When we come into this world, we come into it with nothing hiding our skin
but perhaps some hair. If it is dishonest to cover portions of our skin
with makeup, why would it not be equally dishonest to cover portions of our
skin with fig leaves (as was suggested by Lucifer in the Garden, I believe.)
or even with animal skins which was apparently done _FOR_ Adam and Eve, not
_BY_ them for themselves, or with cotton, wool or muslin or even with sack
cloth? Is that not attempted deception, to cover up what God has made, and
attempt to pretend it is not there? Of course many modern fashions seem not
to attempt to cover, but to accentuate. <G>

How often we get bogged down in the thick of thin things.

Gene

David Bowie
20 years ago
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And lo, Jason King did write:

: Looking over the pictures of general authorities and their wives in
: the church magazines, I have noticed that it seems the wives (and
: Officers who are women) all have their hair cut short. I don't
: remember seeing one that doesn't.
: I know for GA men, there probably are specific instructions to keep
: that hair short.

Are there? I've often wondered whether there are, or whether that's simply
What Is Done.

: Are there similar instructions for high-placed mormon women for their
: hair length when they become a General Officer or wife of a GA? I
: noticed in Latin America most women wear their hair long, even the
: older ones, and it looks beautiful.

: So I am trying to figure out is this a North American thing or does
: the church have something to do with the hair length on high-placed
: Mormon women.

There was a Dilbert strip a few years ago that had a guide to hair length
and marital status. In the first panel was a single woman: long hair; in
the second an engaged woman: shoulder-length hair; in the third was a
married woman: short hair. (It's rather frighteningly accurate for much of
North America--and for Jeanne's own marital and hair history, too.)

So no, i don't think you're seeing a specifically Mormon thing here, since
AFAIK Scott Adams isn't Mormon.

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house, there is too little; some must be purchased. If there is
chocolate in the house, there is too much; it must be consumed.
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